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Tuesday,
September 23, 2003
Steve
Lightle: His Fans Are Legion
By Rik
Offenberger
Steve
Lightle showed a determination to break into the ranks of professional
comic artists from a young age. A graduate of DC’s New Talent
Showcase program, Lightle’s first major assignment was 1984’s
relaunch of the Legion of Super-Heroes in Baxter format.
Lightle is poised to rejoin the Legion, albeit only for one
issue, tomorrow. For those unfamiliar with Steve’s long career in
comics he took some time to chat with us at SBC.
Rik Offenberger: Your first work was at AC Comics on
"Bolt" how did you get the job?
Steve Lightle: First, you've got to understand that I had
aspired to be the youngest working comic book creator, and that hadn't
worked out. I think Jim Shooter holds the record for his Legion
stories, written at the age of fourteen. By the time I was fifteen,
I'd decided that I'd have to publish my first comic work myself, since
DC, Marvel and Charlton were not hiring me to write or draw their
books. So, I scraped together enough cash to get a fanzine going. Of
course, at first I didn't think of it as a fanzine. I saw it as an
independent comic ... a comic not backed by the big corporate
publishers. Of course, while I was getting bids from printers and
drawing the first issue. All that jazz ... I discovered that others
were doing the same thing, sort of, and they were calling them
fanzines. Up until then the only fanzines I knew of consisted of
commentary and occasional spot illustrations. Eventually I discovered
that guys like Tim Corrigan, Jerry Ordway, Bill Black, and others,
were creating mags that contained original comic book stories and art.
Of course, I had mixed feelings about this discovery. I had hoped to
be the first upstart to "buck the system." Instead I found
out that I was joining the ranks of the "also-rans" ...
analogous to the Legion of Substitute Heroes. Maybe that's why I've
always resented those stories where the subs were made a mockery of
and played for comic relief. Long time Legion readers will note that I
did redeem one of the subs by redesigning Polar Boy ... who
eventually, by the way, became Legion leader.
I'm not sure if any of the Americomics work that I did appeared before
my New Talent Showcase issues, but it certainly wasn't actually drawn
until after I'd started the DC work. The reason I did the Americomics
covers (Bolt & Starforce Six, The Scarlet Scorpion,
and so on) was because I cut my creative fangs in fan publishing, and
several of the guys that were doing work at AC were my fanzine
contemporaries. When I realized that the old fraternity was publishing
real comics, I wanted to show some solidarity and stand with them ...
as if to say, "We have arrived!" Polar Boy must have had the
same feeling when he finally was welcomed into the Legion of
Super-Heroes.
RO: You were one of the creators that came from DC’s New
Talent Showcase; tell us about how you were selected.
SL: I didn't know that Sal Amendola was heading up the New
Talent program at DC at the time. You see, at the age of 23 I had just
gotten married, and was head of an art department for a small
advertising firm. Although I was earning a living at art, I felt that
I'd left something unfinished. So, I sent samples of my art to DC
Comics, and was surprised to find that Mr. Amendola was interested in
my contributing to a book that they intended to call Tyros. That later
became New Talent Showcase. Both Sal, and later, Karen Berger
were very encouraging, assuring me that DC would provide me with as
much work as I could handle.
RO: Karen Berger, who was the editor on New Talent Showcase
was also the editor on Legion, did she offer you the job on Legion
before New Talent Showcase came out?
SL: That sounds about right. The real deal is that she offered
me a shot the Tales of the Legion of Super-Heroes title. DC
paid me and a couple of other artists to produce sample pages, to see
how we each handled the Legion. My Legion samples were well received,
and did help land me other gigs at DC, but they didn't land me the job
on "Tales." You see, at that time, the plan was for Keith
Giffen to draw the "Baxter" Legion title, and Karen told me
that they chose another artist whose style was visually more similar
to Giffen's. A couple of months later they needed someone to replace
Mr. Giffen on the direct sales title, and they remembered my samples.
So, I tried out for the "B" book and got the "A"
title instead.
RO: That’s great, were you a Legion fan before?
SL: In a big way. A friend turned me on to the LSH when I was a
kid, and when he told me about aliens with super powers I was hooked.
I was impatient to find a copy of the comic, and once I did, I
immediately became a fan. I was quick to add them to my fast growing
list of favorites, which included the Doom Patrol, the Teen
Titans, the Challengers of the Unknown, and Batman.
RO: What was your experience like working on Legion?
SL: A whirlwind of enthusiastic creativity, insecurity,
excitement, and boundary pushing. Karen Berger and Paul Levitz made me
feel very welcome, and even more important they welcomed my creative
input. The Legion was very much a collaborative effort, and the
thinking was; nothing is off-limits. Everyone brainstormed, both
separately and together, and the best ideas were incorporated into the
book. We talked about everything from cover blurbs to plots ... and
maybe not everything I wanted to do found its way into the book, but
it was an incredibly creative time, and there were new ideas and
concepts being explored every day. I was like a kid in a candy store.
RO: After Legion you started on Doom Patrol. What was
that experience like?
SL: Well, you remember that I listed Doom Patrol amongst
my early favorites. In fact, a Doom Patrol drawing was included
with my original art submissions to DC. Paul Kupperberg still has that
drawing hanging in his house after all these years, which I find
surprising, to say the least. But, you see, Paul was not just my
collaborator on the DP, he was a long time fan of the Patrol, just
like me. Paul and I still get that look in our eyes when we talk about
the book. The truth is, I think we both have Doom Patrol
stories in us that have yet to be told.
RO: You went to Marvel after that, how did they recruit you?
SL: Well, I was talking to Archie Goodwin, and he told me that
the editors at Marvel had heard that I was under an exclusive contract
with DC. When I told him that the contract had run its course, and
that I was a free agent, he spread the word through the Marvel
offices. Once the news broke I received about seven calls all at once.
I took a fill-in issue of X-Factor that Bob Harass offered to
me, and became the cover artist on Classic X-Men, while still
doing covers for Legion over at DC.
RO: Was it different working at Marvel?
SL: Not really. I used to feel that I knew what kind of cover
to pitch to a Marvel editor and what kind to pitch to a DC editor. At
the time, it seemed that DC editors were more open to interesting
design elements, while Marvel was more focused on which characters
were featured and how much action was depicted. The real difference is
between personalities, not company Logos. Retailers worry about
company imprints. Creators are more interested in finding editors who
respect their work and deal honestly.
RO: Working on the X-Men at Marvel, did you feel like
you had reached the top?
SL: Well, I realized that there were worse places to be, but
don't forget, I was also drawing covers for Power Pack, Wanderers,
Quasar, Flash, Avengers Spotlight, Marvel
Comics Presents, Suicide Squad ... all at the same time. I
don't recall ever passing on a job because it wasn't a big enough
seller. Maybe it would have made more sense to take that into
consideration. I do recall a few people questioning my decision to do
so much work on Marvel Comics Presents. Joey Quesada called it
"slumming."
RO: I’ll bet he regrets those words today; after X-Men
Classics and Marvel Comics Presents you went back to DC and
did the covers on Flash for 3 years, how did this come about?
SL: Was it three years? I know it was fun doing those Flash
covers. I had done a few Aztek covers for Paul Kupperberg, and
when that title was cancelled, I asked Paul if he had anything else
that I'd be right for. He suggested Flash, and I guess it
lasted quite awhile. Flash is another one of those characters
I've known since before I could read. My brother Sherman, who is nine
years older than me, always had a stash of comic books under his
dresser, and flipping through those is how I became acquainted with
the Doom Patrol, World's Finest Comics, Fantastic
Four and the Flash. Flash was always my brother's
favorite, and so I always felt that my run of Flash covers was
dedicated to Sherm. I've also penciled and inked a full issue of Flash
which hasn't seen the light of day yet. We should check with the Flash
editor and find out when that is scheduled to appear.
RO: While you were working on Flash, you also did work
for DC licensing, what did you do for them?
SL: I've never really gotten completely out of advertising, and
many of my advertising clients have worked with DC and Marvel
characters. I've done comic related work for Hi-C, General Motors,
Sega Game Systems, Sterling Software, toy manufacturers, Insurance
firms ... I've even drawn comics for the public school system and Six
Flags theme parks. Often DC or Marvel will already have a licensor
anxious to use their characters, as in the case of On Star or Six
Flags, and they'll call me in to produce the work made to order. The
arrangement has lead to some interesting work, including interactive
comics that incorporate still images and flash animation.
RO: You then started working for Cross Plains Comics, why move
to small press?
SL: Once again, it wasn't a conscious choice to avoid the
mainstream. I actually worked on Cross Plains titles while also
working for DC and Marvel and advertising clients. An editor that I'd
worked with at Marvel let me know that he was planning to build a new
company around the works of Robert E. Howard. He had already secured
the licensing agreements, and intended to publish familiar characters
like Kull, Cormac Mac Art, and Red Sonja. When he
mentioned that he was interested in doing a book about Howard's
werewolf character De Montour, I perked up. Despite the many pathetic
werewolf films that have been produced through the years, I'd always
had an affinity for the concept, and was actually working on an (as
yet) unpublished werewolf comic of my own. It seemed to be the right
thing at the right time, and it really didn't take much arm-twisting
to get me on board. It soon became obvious that Cross Plains needed
much more than another artist, and I put a lot of effort into building
up the company. Our greatest accomplishments were winning the Gem
award for best new publisher of 1999, and selling our entire print
runs of Wolfshead and Red Sonja - A Death in Scarlet.
RO: Are you a Robert E. Howard fan
SL: Robert E. Howard is the father of Sword and Sorcery
fiction, and stands beside J.R.R. Tolkien as one of the pillars of the
modern fantasy genre. Many people know that fact, but aren't aware
that he also innovated in the genres of the western adventure, heroic
fiction, humor and horror.
RO:
What was it like to work with Roy Thomas on the Robert E. Howard
characters?
SL: It was a great opportunity to stretch beyond my job as an
artist. On the Cross Plains books, I had the chance to contribute to
story details, such as plotting and dialogue. Those CPC stories ranged
from creative collaboration with a veteran writer to solo scripting
efforts, while always seeking to draw inspiration from the original
works of Robert E. Howard.
RO: What happened to Cross Plains Comics?
SL: I can only speculate. It seems that the company never fully
recovered from debts it incurred early on.
RO: What can you tell us about Lunatick Press?
SL: Lunatick Press is my own efforts to self publish. I created
a Lunatick Press sampler, called PEKING TOM & BOBBI SOX,
which served to introduce several characters and concepts that I
intend to publish in their own titles. Unfortunately, the downturn in
the national economy has caused me to take a more cautious approach to
the world of independent publishing. I'm currently entertaining the
idea of allowing other publishers to release some of my ideas, with me
retaining the ownership of the individual properties. The Lunatick
Press pantheon of characters encompasses many genres from parody to
science fiction and horror. Each feature is one that I'm passionate
about, and whether they see print under the Lunatick Press imprint or
another, they will appear. I guess I'll have to keep you posted on
developments as they occur.
RO: How did you end up back with the Legion again?
SL: Well, even though I quit working on Legion interiors
I still continued to do Legion projects from time to time. I drew
covers for lots of Legion related comics, and I was asked to return to
the book on numerous occasions through the years. I never lost my
fondness for the original concepts of the series, even when I
sometimes didn't agree with the direction the series was taking. The
book has undergone some notable changes in direction and even
continuity, and I've come to be thought of as the artist that drew
that "other" Legion. Still, I've had several chances to draw
the "post boot" Legion in solo stories and on various
covers. To me, the idea of my doing a few issues of the current
incarnation of the Legion doesn't seem so shocking. Legion #24
is my first Legion comic of the 21st century, and it's also the first
issue of the Legion that I've both penciled and inked .. but it's
certainly not my last. I do suppose it is a milestone of sorts.
RO: What else do you have planned?
SL: Comic readers can look forward to more Legion, that
issue of the Flash which I mentioned earlier, more Peking
Tom & Bobbi Sox and the adventures of Steve Lightle's
Justin Zane (trade marked, naturally). A preview of Justin Zane
can be seen in the Peking Tom & Bobbi Sox #1 and the Legion
Companion. The Companion also contains another Lightle interview
(as if you haven't had enough) and a drawing by Curt Swan and myself,
as well as loads of other artwork and interviews with Legion creators
such as Dave Cockrum and Paul Levitz.
RO: What else would you like to work on?
SL: I've discussed a new project for Wildstorm, so that's a
possibility. If DC was interested in reviving the Doom Patrol,
I might be up for that, or .. Hmmm, it's been awhile since I've done
work for Marvel...
RO: Is it true that you never look for work, and that every job
is the result of editors chasing after you?
SL: That may be true of the majority of my comic work, and it
would be ideal to hav
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