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Friday,
April 2, 2004
Mark
Waid: Funny Pages
By
Rik
Offenberger
Mark
Waid’s career path has taken him from fanzine writer, to
freelancer, to DC editor, and then on to become one of the
most sought after writers in the entire comics industry.
Waid takes time out to reminisce about his career in this
retrospective interview. Tracking the rise and further rise
of a comics wunderkind: This Is Your Life (in the funny
pages), Mark Waid.
Rik Offenberger: You started your comic career off as
a reporter and then an editor of Amazing Heroes, how
did you get involved with Amazing Heroes?
Mark Waid: I started freelancing for them in 1984 or
so with a friend of mine named Kevin Gould, a fellow fan who
had a little more fanzine experience than I did. That really
opened some doors and led to an editorial gig at
Fantagraphics that disintegrated a few months in. [laughs]
After that, I was a temp legal secretary for a few months,
after which then-EIC Dick Giordano called me in for an
interview. Shortly thereafter, I was made an associate
editor at DC.
RO: You were a successful editor at DC with Legion
of Super-Heroes, Secret Origins, Doom Patrol,
why leave to become a full time freelancer?
MW: Well, let’s just say it wasn’t completely my
idea. =koff= I’m not at my best in an office environment.
Just ask Mark Alessi!
RO: As an editor you saw how unstable life as a
freelancer was, were you at all concerned?
MW: Very. But I’ve been insanely lucky since then.
There’s not a day that’s gone by since--knock on
wood--that I’ve ever had to look for work. There’ve
always been more assignments available than time, and I’m
very grateful.
RO: So in 1989 you and Brian Augustyn co-wrote the Detective
Annual, what was the response to your story?
MW: Very good, and I know we were happy with it. It
was a good collaboration.
RO: Why co-write with Brian Augustyn?
MW: I repeat: good collaboration. We started on staff
the same year, and besides becoming one of my best friends,
he and I shared very strong sensibilities about story and
the craft of writing. He’s an excellent plotter, still is,
and is enormously responsible for all the good work done on THE
FLASH.
RO: Brian Augustyn was the editor on the Flash
and he had you write a story in the Flash Special,
did he have any further plans for you and the Flash at that
point?
MW: Not really, but then, neither did DC. Honestly, I
was told the company pretty much expected the book to
collapse once the FLASH TV show was cancelled, but that gave
Brian a little freedom to hire the “newbie” kid.
RO: In 1991 you were one of the main writers on the
Impact Universe, writing both Legend of the Shield
and Comet, were you a big fan of the Archie Heroes,
or was this just a regular writing assignment and you were
going to do your best with it?
MW: More the latter, honestly. I knew of the
characters, but I wasn’t a huge nut for them. Not like I
always have been for the DC guys.
RO: In the second year you wrote the Crucible
mini-series to re-launch the Impact Universe, what happened,
why no re-launch after the mini series?
MW: Dunno. What’s less well known is that Brian and
I wrote three first issues of relaunched series for the Shield,
the Black Hood, and the Comet, all fully
penciled and lettered--but DC just didn’t see enough
potential profit there to renew the license.
RO: I actually have read, the American Shield,
Wrath of the Comet, Mark of the Black Hood,
and Forging Steel. Again you wrote the Shield and the
Comet. Were you worried that with the loss of two books in
progress that you wouldn’t have trouble getting more work.
MW: My recollection was that it was about that time
that Dan Raspler asked me to do dialogue on L.E.G.I.O.N.
and that Marvel started making offers, so I was
disappointed, but not crushed.
RO: From Impact you started on an extremely
impressive run on the Flash. How did you get the Flash
assignment?
MW: Again, Brian. He saw something in me that no one
else did, and despite the protestations of his bosses not to
hire “a fanboy,” he took a flyer on me.
RO: Before you got to the title, Wally West wasn’t
a very likable hero; did you intend to change that right
away?
MW: RIGHT away. And I think Bill Loebs, my
predecessor, had done most of the work, honestly. I just did
what I always do--show you why I love the character.
RO: How much difference was there between your Wally
West and Barry Allen?
MW: A huge amount. The biggest difference was that
Wally was a full-time professional hero. That was his job.
And he loved every minute of it. Why be Wally West when you
can run around doing neat stuff all day long?
RO: You stayed with the Flash for 8 years, why did
you leave?
MW: I ran out of stories to tell. Actually, most of
the fans who read my last year would argue that I ran out of
stories to tell seven years in, not eight, but hey…
RO: You created the Flash, spin-off, Impulse,
what made you decide the right direction to go would be a
comedy?
MW: Because, my God, we had to do SOMETHING with it
to make it different than FLASH. Otherwise, why would DC be
publishing two books about super-speedsters? No, once Brian
and I decided to make Impulse a sitcom, it suddenly
had a reason to exist other than as a mere spin-off.
RO: After 27 issues you left Impulse, this was
your creation, why leave?
MW: That time, because Humberto Ramos had left--and
it just wasn’t the same without him, with all due respect
to his successors.
RO: How do you feel about DC turning Impulse into Kid
Flash in the Teen Titans?
MW: Everything has a lifespan. I miss Impulse
tremendously, but I certainly respect Geoff Johns’ reasons
for changing Bart.
RO: During you Flash run you also started working for
Marvel. How did you end up writing Deadpool?
MW: I was called by someone who thought I had a
handle on the snappy patter that would be required.
RO: Was there any difficulty working for DC and
Marvel at the same time?
MW: Never.
RO: At this point you were writing Flash, Impulse,
Deadpool, Justice League Task Force, Legion
of Super-Heroes, Legionnaires, and Valor,
all at the same time. How many comics can you write in a
month?
MW: Then? Five. Now? I’m lucky to make two. It’s
HARD!
RO: Then you took on Captain America. Were you
a fan?
MW: HUGE fan. The only Marvel character at the time I
was ever continuously a fan of and the only assignment, at
the time, that I would have flipped over--and it was the one
they offered.
RO: In the middle of your run, Marvel turned the book
over to Rob Liefeld as part of Heroes Reborn. Rob wanted you
to stay on, why did you leave?
MW: Rob wanted me to stay on to dialogue over his
plot and pencils. Once I saw the direction he was going, I
realized it wasn’t for me.
RO: Before the year was over they took the Cap away
form Liefeld and shortly there after they gave the comic
back to you, did you feel the fans had demanded your return?
MW: Not like they did with FF. But the
outpouring was nice.
RO: Captain America seemed different from your
other work in that he was not as introspective. Was this
intentional?
MW: Absolutely. I felt we shouldn’t be inside
Cap’s head as much as we were Wally’s, because by now,
after all the years on the job, Cap is more instinctive than
introspective.
RO: Over at DC you wrote Kingdom Come. Were
you surprised by it’s tremendous success?
MW: Overwhelmed.
RO: Then you were doing both the X-Men and Avengers
for Marvel. How did you end up on both their flagship team
books at the same time?
MW: Ha! It’s not the honor you’re making it out
to be. Basically, they just needed some poor sap to sit in
the Avengers chair for three months and bide time
waiting for Heroes Reborn.
RO: You stay with the X-Men was cut short,
what happened?
MW: Creative differences. As in, I wanted to be
creative.
RO: After X-Men you launched Ka-Zar. Why Ka-Zar?
MW: Because Andy Kubert was told by Marvel that he
could draw any character, and that’s the one he chose for
us. I thought he was insane, but I’ll be damned if I
didn’t find a hook, and I’m very proud of that series to
this day. Thanks, Andy!
RO: You also worked on X-O Manowar for
Acclaim, Ash and Painkiller Jane for Event.
What drew you to the independents instead of more work with
DC and Marvel?
MW: The personality and strength of Joe Quesada and
Jimmy Palmiotti (the Event Comics gurus) and of Fabian
Nicieza (over at Acclaim). It was nice to stretch away from
DC and Marvel a little.
RO: You followed that by re-teaming with Barry Kitson
from L.E.G.I.O.N., to create Empire. Why self
publish?
MW: Because we felt like setting fire to my savings
account.
RO: Ultimately why didn’t Gorilla succeed?
MW: Because we were much better creators than
businessmen, ultimately. That’s what it boils down to. The
book sold very well, but we just weren’t as well financed
as we’d been told we were by our backer.
RO: At this point you are working on Gatecrashers
and JLA and you quit everything your doing to move to
Florida and join CrossGen. How did CrossGen convince you to
join them?
MW: You have to remember the time. This was just
before Quesada and Jemas took over at Marvel, before Didio
landed at DC, and things at both majors were looking VERY
grim. The entire industry was in freefall and Mark Alessi
seemed to be the only guy looking for a ripcord. CrossGen
really sounded like they had a plan to break out of the
spiraling-downward market, and it looked good.
RO: CrossGen had a very unique working environment
and very stringent contracts. What was it like working for
CrossGen, and why did you leave?
MW: Like being sucker-punched every day. I stayed
through the end of my contract, but there are only so many
lies and so much insane bullying by a frothing lunatic that
any human being can tolerate before he bolts.
RO: How did you get Fantastic Four?
MW: Tom Brevoort called and offered--simple as that.
RO: First you’re writing Fantastic Four,
then you’re fired, then you’re back on the book. What
was that all about?
MW: Heck if I know. The old boss didn’t like my
work, the new bosses do. Onward and upward.
RO: Currently you are working on Fantastic Four
and Superman: Birthright. What’s next?
MW: Can’t say--but it involves DC and Barry Kitson
and a very, very special relaunch close to both our hearts.
Plus, someday--more Empire!
RO: Thanks for your time and good luck with the new
series.
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