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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:53 pm
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From: Richard Boucher

A Harvey Bro's golden age character .........in the files
section...enjoy.... CLICK HERE

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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:55 pm
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From: Mike Harwood

Thanks, Richard, another classic!
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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:56 pm
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From: Yocitrus

Oh WOW!
Great stuff Richard. And welcome back btw! We've missed you!

This one is a new one to me. It's from:
Spitfire Comics #1 [Aug'41].
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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:57 pm
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From: jfglade

Thank you, Richard. It just keeps getting better; I've been curious
about the original Fly-Man character since I first saw an image of
him and read about him (and Spitfire and Kangaroo Man) in 'The
Encyclopedia of Super Heroes' some fifteen or sixteen years ago. That
book is filled with errors and I thought I would never get the
straight story on Fly-Man, let alone see his origin. I'm also
developing quite a bit of respect for Sam Glanzman, who until
recently was only someone I vaguely associated with early comic
books. Now that I've seen his work on a few markedly different series
(e.g. 'Vapo-Man' and 'Iron Skull, as well as the Fly-Man origin
story), I'm starting to appreciate his storytelling style a great
deal.

This one is a keeper.
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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:00 pm
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From: Michael T. Gilbert

Richard: Thanks so much for the post. I only recently heard about the non-Archie Fly-Man and was very curious about it. Really crude art, but strangely powerful story. I like it! And I plan on sending Sam Glanzman scans of it for his amusement/horror! ;-)

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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:01 pm
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From: John M. Burt

An interesting story.

**SPOILER**

As usual when the hero is created by an experimental new technology,
he's the sole survivor of the experiments -- only this time, he's the
one who made sure of that!

-- John M. Burt
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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:02 pm
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From: Yocitrus

Crude? Not a word I would use Mike.
A touch rough around the edges perhaps.
I thought Sam's work here was nicely done. His layouts and 'screen angles' helped the story quite a bit. Please thank Sam for all the pleasure he has given his viewers over the years.

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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:04 pm
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From: Stan Taylor

Hi guys,

First, thanks for the Fly-Man scans, they were great!!! Looking at the F-M scans I noticed 4-5 panels that seemed familiar. They reminded me of Jack Kirby panels from the same time period. I tracked several of them down and they were indeed swipes, mostly from Blue Bolt's from a year earlier. I have placed an example in the file section.


This doesn't surprise me, I have seen several examples of Kirby swipes from both Sam and Louis Glanzman previously. Both Sam and Louis (Lew) were part of the Funnies Inc Studio which produced both Blue Bolt and some of the early Timely books that featured some of Simon and Kirby's earliest work.

Louis illustrated the Tom Corbett juvenile series books in the early 1950's and they are full of Kirby swipes from stories such as Blue Bolt, Cosmic Carson, Captain Daring, and Solar Legion

It seemed that while at Funnies, the Glanzman's created a nice sci-fi swipe file containing early Kirby panels.

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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:06 pm
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From: Cash Gorman

that's a good eye. it's funny, that machine stood out to me when i
read the story, but it reminded me a lot of how gil kane drew
machinery in the silver age, to the point i thought maybe he had
something to do with the comic, but research said he wouldn't draw his
first stuff for another year and even then that would be at MLJ.

A Kirby swipe didn't even occur to
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From: Dusty Miller

.... I noticed 4-5 panels that seemed familiar

You are a sad man, Stan Taylor!

Good spot though;-)
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From: Reuben Reuben

Rchard, thanks for this. Also, are you still planning to put out some CDs?
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Post Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:39 pm
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From: Stan Taylor

Hi Dusty,


>You are a sad man, Stan Taylor! Good spot though;-)<

Yes I am!! Actually, the spotting wasn't hard. Considering that this was done in early 1941, there were just a few artists using that wide spread legs, and bodies jumping the panel borders, and extreme foreshortening. Lou Fine and Jack Kirby

Sam's efforts lack any of the elegance of Lou Fine's stylings, but they do approximate Kirby's cruder, but more dynamic and energetic style. Two panels really struck me. One was the face of Doctor Foster. This seems like a direct swipe from a character in Kirby's Blue Beetle strip at Fox. It's the disguise that one of the villains don to try to get close to kill a stool pigeon. And the other was the panel where Dr. Foster gets shot. Very few artists at the time would twist the human form in this extreme a manner, and it looked familiar. It's a swipe of a panel from Blue Bolt #9, which I have posted.

When I had tracked this down, it was easy to then match-up the machinery which I posted yesterday. Again, no one was doing machinery as precise, detailed, and downright Goldbergian as Kirby was at the time. So seeing this in a Glanzman comic struck me as out of place for his own style at the time.

I do say that Sam did a bang-up job of integrating the swipes into the story, and the panel where Fly-Man throws the knife straight at the reader is so well done, that it shows how quickly he absorbed what Fine and Kirby were doing.

The scene where the knife practically slices the mini-man in two is one of the more shocking panels I can recall from that period, completely caught me off gaurd. Extreme, but effective.

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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:07 pm
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From: Michael T. Gilbert

Well, it's all relative, Yoc. Personally, I love the story and think it has a real direct, youthful energy to it.

Still, compared to what Sam's doing today, it's definitely crude art. Trust me, Sam would agree with that statement wholeheartedly. He often enjoys wincing at his old early-40s art, if only for effect. But I'd take Sam's "rough-edged" art, even that very early stuff, over tons of more slick, polished cartoonists.

His stories are just more fun.

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From: Yocitrus

Hi Mike,
I think we agree in essence Michael.
I'm guessing Sam feels the same about his old artwork that the average person feels when they see pictures of themselves with some terrible haircut, etc from their school days.
"What was I thinking???" *LOL*

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From: Craig Ede

More like "what was I learning???", speaking as a former art teacher. (And there are positive answers to that question.)
I respond to the energy and enthusiasm of that early work as well.
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